tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post2475087643064340291..comments2024-03-23T05:42:07.516-04:00Comments on The Deliberate Agrarian: The Deliberate Agrarian Update31 August 2010Herrick Kimballhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-81986421983519803412010-09-28T05:49:42.362-04:002010-09-28T05:49:42.362-04:00Rachel—
Teens are NOT being excluded from the Haik...Rachel—<br />Teens are NOT being excluded from the Haiku contest. The only change is that their poems are now included in the adult category. I have just received two submissions from a 15 year old girl and hope your daughter will send hers in.Herrick Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-52753296445658148182010-09-28T02:31:13.963-04:002010-09-28T02:31:13.963-04:00My slightly "airhead" daughter of 15 - h...My slightly "airhead" daughter of 15 - has been writing haiku's for your contest for weeks on end. She has about 5 or 6 favorites and keeps running around asking friends and relatives which they like best. You should have at least her teen entry ... I'll have to remind her. Sweet girl - just a lot impulsive. ,,,, We LOVE your book and blog and look forward to each new month. Thanks for sharing!Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06439004289995209998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-73849008300477474212010-09-28T01:10:29.836-04:002010-09-28T01:10:29.836-04:00Thank you Herrick! If your wife gets around to mak...Thank you Herrick! If your wife gets around to making more Gentleman Farmer soap, I'll buy 12 bars. marilyn_terrell@hotmail.com<br />Thanks for your fascinating newsletter.Marilyn Terrellhttp://www.intelligenttravelblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-89139590938836626312010-09-26T09:50:14.873-04:002010-09-26T09:50:14.873-04:00I enjoyed reading this post. My husband made me o...I enjoyed reading this post. My husband made me one of those washlines, which I absolutely love. My daughter had a problem with me hanging underwear on the line. I thought that was strange. As if anyone has time to stop and scrutinize what's on my washline. If they do, they should get a life, or something. I don't see myself as agrarian but maybe moving that way unintentionally. It seems that as I seek God for direction in my own life I end up being more and more agrarian. Chickens, gardening, canning, freezing, making everything homemade if at all possible. It's just that I want to find God's place for me in this life and I am a stay at home mom. This direction seems to be where God is leading me. So for me it appears that Prov 31 is about the womans role in an agrarian lifestyle. You can call it what you want but what you wrote about your Great grandmother has seriously challenged and inspired me. Thank you for your blog.(s)<br />HannaElizabethwilliamswriterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01741237481835703350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-12504065367436301242010-09-22T18:12:02.136-04:002010-09-22T18:12:02.136-04:00Julie-Ann—
If you do make it to the MOFGA fair, it...Julie-Ann—<br />If you do make it to the MOFGA fair, it would be nice to get your eye-witness report. Thanks.<br /><br />Kelle—<br />Fortunately chickens don’t have Rocky Mountain oysters, or I’d have to seriously consider them.<br /><br />PeterPansDad—<br />Thanks for the lesson. I never knew there was a difference between capitalism and corporatism. It seems to me that corporatism is just the natural result of capitalism taken to it’s logical end, and that both “isms” are so closely allied that making distinctions is moot, especially now that corporatism has rooted itself into our American Constitution (as I explained in <a href="http://thedeliberateagrarian.blogspot.com/2010/05/dirty-little-secret-of-how-corporations.html" rel="nofollow">This Essay</a>).<br /><br />Joel—<br />Thanks for your comment here. I suppose it all boils down to how you define words like traditional and conservative<br /><br />Joel—<br />Hmmm.... It looks like “dirty rice” can mean different things to different people too. Thanks for the recipe link. Looks good. I mean, it looks bad (which some people use to mean good). Is it any wonder our civilization is messed up when the same words can have distinctly opposite meanings. <br /><br />Another example is “I haven’t seen you in a minute,” which someone told me the other day. I asked the person what that means and he explained that a “minute” means a long time.<br /><br />Eric and Danielle—<br />Thanks for the idea. It sounds appealing (sort of). But it seems to me that some barbecue sauce would be an improvement.<br /><br />Paige—<br />I think you and Dan are a smart couple. Living below your means and having a “dream home” with space for parents and/or missionaries is proof of that.<br /><br />Robin—<br />Sounds good. If my gizzard recipe is a big hit, I’ll trade my hearts, feet, and livers for your gizzards. Or, on second thought, maybe we could just trade recipes.<br /><br />Mary Q—<br />I agree. Wooden clothes racks are a fine tool for drying clothes, especially in the winter if you have a woodstove.<br /><br />mary ann—<br />Thanks. Stay tuned. Gizzard recipe will be in the October blog. That’s the plan.<br /><br />Garth—<br />Teens can still enter the contest but in the adult category now. <br /><br />Those battered hearts needed barbecue sauce! Save the gizzards next time. I’ve got a good recipe....I think.<br /><br />Cindy—<br />Thanks for posting. I’m wondering how the dirty rice would be with chopped MOUNTAIN oysters.<br /><br />Marilyn—<br />Thanks for mentioning my wife’s soaps. Glad you like them. New Hope Mills sells a lot of bars and Marlene has a hard time keeping them supplied. She doesn’t have any Gentleman Farmer in stock right now but I’ll have her contact you about this. I am hoping to help her more with the soap business and start selling through our Planet Whizbang business..... someday.<br /><br />C. Kurtz—<br />Thanks for the link (I read it). And I’ll check out those songs one of these days.<br /><br />Mrs. Bradlie—<br />When life gives you livers, make pate, eh? If only my mother had known. I WILL remember pate!<br /><br />Hi Melinda—<br />Thanks for posting. I am pleased to have you as a reader. I’ll give your questions some thought and maybe I can blog an answer one of these months.Herrick Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-32417265115783790502010-09-21T08:44:06.352-04:002010-09-21T08:44:06.352-04:00Dear Herrick --
I am quickly making a reading lis...Dear Herrick -- <br />I am quickly making a reading list from your Blogazine -- so much to choose from. .do you have a "top 10" list of books/writings that you'd recommend to me, a newbie to this way of thinking? I want to get to it all, but I am still raising a family and have lots of practical work to get to. Also, do you have a "top 10" list of priorities for starting out in this lifestyle of family-based agrarianism? My husband is a civil engineer who loves to build things and I am a homeschooling mom with a degree in Fine Art. We have a garden in summer and get eggs from our chickens year round. We live in suburbia and can't see a way to leave as yet.<br /><br />Many thanks -- I LOVE the Blogazine format -- very efficient for me read it all at once and not have to check in every day. .<br /><br />Melinda Loustalot<br />mloustalot@aol.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-19022027342566556802010-09-14T01:47:33.474-04:002010-09-14T01:47:33.474-04:00I haven't read youur whole post yet.. I'm ...I haven't read youur whole post yet.. I'm working on it. As I was skimming though I did read about the chickens~ I grew up not liking liver, I still don't. Unless it's made into paté ~ even my kids love it prepared this way. So when you get to the point of trying those livers, remember paté !Mrs. bradliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09957530662910608283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-75964566467923793922010-09-13T03:06:31.628-04:002010-09-13T03:06:31.628-04:00Interesting co-incidence in that Jerry Pournelle a...Interesting co-incidence in that Jerry Pournelle also had a write up on Distributists last Wednesday - Sept. 1:<br />http://www.jerrypournelle.com/view/2010/Q3/view638.html#deathtaxes<br /><br />Had a thought after reading your latest that Eddie Arnold's 'Luckiest Man in the World' might be a candidate for a theme song if you were into such things. It sums up most of what you are talking about. You can find it on You Tube, along with 'Crying in the Chapel'; I listen to both all the time.<br /><br />Best to you and your familyC. Kurtznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-40339392713524549402010-09-12T17:54:51.004-04:002010-09-12T17:54:51.004-04:00Thanks for your thought-provoking ideas. I'm s...Thanks for your thought-provoking ideas. I'm so glad I stumbled upon this blog. On a vacation to the Finger Lakes my family and I discovered New Hope Mills. We brought back some pancake mix and your wife's Morning Glory Soaps. They are marvelous soaps and my husband can't find any soap he likes better. I wanted to get some more for his birthday, but New Hope Mills currently only has 3 varieties for sale on their website(Bay Rum, Cinnamon Oatmeal & Lavender Calendula). My husband particularly liked Gentleman Farmer soap. Does Marlene still make that kind? I would love to buy some.<br />marilyn_terrell@hotmail.comMarilyn Terrellhttp://www.intelligenttravelblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-18085662505693796492010-09-07T22:28:34.387-04:002010-09-07T22:28:34.387-04:00As always, I do so enjoy reading your monthly entr...As always, I do so enjoy reading your monthly entries.<br />I must add that my family is originally from south Louisiana and our dirty rice recipe is just like the one Joel linked to, only we also add chopped oysters. YUM!<br /><br />Peace & Blessings,<br />Cindy in TexasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-25818204869816389932010-09-06T18:03:59.832-04:002010-09-06T18:03:59.832-04:00AHHHWWWWW, and I was going to have three of MY tee...AHHHWWWWW, and I was going to have three of MY teen-aged children write a poem for your contest. But I guess that wouldn't be fair if no one else entered in that category huh?<br /><br />We had some help with the first batch of chickens we butchered this summer from some of our city friends. They came to the farm to visit for a few days and it so happened to be butchering day. Anyway, my friend fried up some battered hearts in butter and we ate them that night. I have to admit, I did not care for them. At all. Most recently I have been using the hearts, livers, and gizzards to give to by domestic animals, and leave the rest of the parts in the woods for the wild animals to eat on. I figure I'll let them have a little of our bounty!foutfolkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079651678447028444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-75523135689692907352010-09-06T08:58:38.684-04:002010-09-06T08:58:38.684-04:00I can't wait for your gizzard recipe. I have a...I can't wait for your gizzard recipe. I have a bag of gizzards in the freezer ready to go! Thanks for your blog. I love forward to you each month. Mary Annmary annhttp://www.bearcreekacres.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-40313977294898115422010-09-04T09:50:57.208-04:002010-09-04T09:50:57.208-04:00This is the first time that I have came across you...This is the first time that I have came across your your blog. Some very interesting ideas. I actually live in the city and am an advocate for urban agriculture, community gardens and the like. Many of our values overlap. I liked the picture of the couple with the <a href="http://www.easydigging.com/Garden_Cultivator/wheel_hoe_push_plow.html" rel="nofollow">wheel hoe</a>. I have recently been researching which one to get. I also know that for those of us in the city with very small yards or with crazy ordinances that do not allow clotheslines. That a <a href="http://www.bestdryingrack.com" rel="nofollow">wooden clothes drying rack</a>. Is a great solution.Mary Q Contrariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584539485118571553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-30165093613057958932010-09-03T11:54:43.266-04:002010-09-03T11:54:43.266-04:00Herrick,
My family raised 90 meat chickens this ye...Herrick,<br />My family raised 90 meat chickens this year, and I talked myself into saving the feet, hearts and livers. I couldn't quite manage the gizzards yet. I was thinking the the livers could be made into a pate, in the French fashion, and might make a nice homemade snack. <br /><br />-RobinRobinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15511451294300128120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-4361502290875388492010-09-02T08:57:07.350-04:002010-09-02T08:57:07.350-04:00Herrick,
Dan and I actually were discussing the f...Herrick,<br /><br />Dan and I actually were discussing the fact that our little cabin is actually nearly quite livable. It would just need a small bathroom, some insulation, and some drywall hung for it to be a good starter home. We laughed when we realized how much the cabin cost--and how much larger (and cheaper!) it was than our first apartment!<br /><br />We have often planned of how we hope to build our "dream home" one day. Starting with a small cabin or apartment above our garage/workshop that will one day become a grandparent apartment, guest home, or we also had hoped to open it up to visiting missionaries home in the states on furlough.<br /><br />Being debt-free and mortgage free is a definite goal of ours! Too many young people don't know the value of living BELOW your means and saving for a rainy day.<br /><br />Best regards,<br />PaigePaigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06600037978764364572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-78094700326954300322010-09-02T08:07:45.769-04:002010-09-02T08:07:45.769-04:00I learned to love chicken hearts in southern Brazi...I learned to love chicken hearts in southern Brazil. They were standard fare at every churrasco restaurant I went to. Slide 20 (or so) of them on a metal spit, sprinkle with salt and cook them over some hot coals. Num num num.Daniellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15416971113271451974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-44095028461182650762010-08-31T16:16:15.501-04:002010-08-31T16:16:15.501-04:00After posting that, I remembered this recipe for d...After posting that, I remembered this recipe for <a href="http://www.cookingforengineers.com/recipe/147/Dirty-Rice" rel="nofollow">dirty rice</a>. I think the name of that dish was chosen by a conspiracy, intending to keep its deliciousness from becoming more widely known. It makes me consider breeding chickens that, rather than having enormous pectoral muscles like industrial chickens, have a naturally large liver, like a shark.<br /><br />I bet cooking style wasn't entirely to blame for your childhood experiences, either: the animals those livers belonged to were probably not half as healthy as the chickens you raise.Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16755460714090772432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-6910306743376617882010-08-31T15:43:25.754-04:002010-08-31T15:43:25.754-04:00Conservatives protecting the industrial model of p...Conservatives protecting the industrial model of production reminds me of this comment on a blog that I enjoy reading for similar reasons to this one:<br /><br />"...there are many particular old ways of doing things that are better than the new ways. But the habit of favoring a way of doing something, just because it's old, is a cognitive shortcut, and a dangerous one. If people like to follow "tradition", then you can make the most insane and dysfunctional society in history, keep it going for a few generations, and the traditionalists will fanatically defend it. Obviously, we are now living in that society."<br /><br />I might be the only person who can enjoy both this blog and that, so I won't link to it.<br /><br />But I would like to agree with you that there is a real spiritual difference between ways of life that are true to the structure of the world, and ways that are merely familiar or comfortable. Too many conservatives defend the latter, sometimes attacking the former.Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16755460714090772432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-10056877803281466102010-08-31T13:05:21.179-04:002010-08-31T13:05:21.179-04:00I agree with the crux of what was expressed by Car...I agree with the crux of what was expressed by Carlson. Preserve the family unit. Don't give into your materialistic desires. Goods don't satisfy, a person's eyes are never satisfied (Proverbs 27:20). Seek community interdependence and personal independence (1 Thess. 4:12). However, he has confused "capitalism" (private ownership, unregulated market, possibility of failure) and "corporatism" (Government power exercised through large organizations working in concert(bailed out banks buying treasuries, government owning majority of GM, government forcing us to buy private health insurance)) or "Fascism" (Corporatism with a CEO/dictator). In what I read here, Dr. Carlson makes no argument against private ownership of resources and personal reinvestment of earnings, nor of the realities of dealing with your own decisions. He's attacking the right ideas but using the wrong label.<br /><br />The Agar exerpt describes G.K. Chesterton writing against monopoly (along with tyranny, welfare and emperialism). I am no fan of monopoly and I defy you to find an example of a lasting monopoly in the absence of government enforcement. It survives only by direct charter as noted in the Borsodi snippet or by patent/copyright creep. There's always someone willing to do it for less or able to do it better. Chesterton argues in favor of property ownership and personal responsibility. He argues against government welfare, government corruption, imperialism (even American imperialism) and government-sponsored or -enabled monopoly. These are not anti-capitalist arguments. They are anti-corporatist, anti-fascist and explicitly anti-socialist.<br /><br />Socialism and Corporatism (Fascism) have the same result: Government overlords subordinating us to their will. I am free by design to choose my Creator/Redeemer or to choose my own path. I am free of my sin debt because He paid it for me. The only limitation to my freedom is imposed on me by near-sighted government do-gooders and their darned unintended consequences. Clotheslines illegal!?!? Indeed!PeterPansDadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-74982748089546481972010-08-31T11:23:11.215-04:002010-08-31T11:23:11.215-04:00Awwww....come on I was just getting into the gizza...Awwww....come on I was just getting into the gizzard story with hopes of a shared recipe in there somewhere. <br /><br />I can relate to your liver story, it was if you took the words right out of my mouth. I'll eat gizzards, have even tried Rocky Mountain Oysters, but forget the heart and liver bit, sorry*wink* I honestly don't even thick I could eat them if starving, I'd rather wildcraft some " Weeds", LOL!!!<br /><br />As always, we enjoyed your posting and look forward to the end of each month, it's like catching up with a friend we've not seen for a month. <br /><br />Take care and blessing to you and yours,<br />KelleKelle at The Never Done Farmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06089557752054842197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-4687426197945489672010-08-31T07:37:14.550-04:002010-08-31T07:37:14.550-04:00MOFGA and the Common Ground Fair!
WOW! and Cong...MOFGA and the Common Ground Fair! <br /><br />WOW! and Congratulations!<br /><br />I was not planning to go, but now I will go and inspect your product. I will report back!Julie-Annnoreply@blogger.com