tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post2889934034696665368..comments2024-03-23T05:42:07.516-04:00Comments on The Deliberate Agrarian: Survival Gardening,And The List OfVery Special Survival VegetablesHerrick Kimballhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-55712781710801684912018-03-27T14:44:04.798-04:002018-03-27T14:44:04.798-04:00Essay on my hobby Gardening<a href="https://ilmihub.com/essay-on-my-hobby-for-10-class-12-class.html" rel="nofollow">Essay on my hobby Gardening</a>genius786https://www.blogger.com/profile/17150410416195741689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-37085828141610266502015-07-01T20:22:56.185-04:002015-07-01T20:22:56.185-04:00This gives you a better idea about how they grow.
...This gives you a better idea about how they grow.<br />http://www.egyptianwalkingonion.com/photogallerybranches.htm<br /><br />They are Perennial onions, they seed themselves with sets from the top, and also can be grown from the bottom roots too. Your choice. You have to read the site to understand how to use them. Bless, SheilaSheila Gilbertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-61890326248912100122015-07-01T20:13:13.109-04:002015-07-01T20:13:13.109-04:00You can read all about the Egyptian Onions here
h...<br />You can read all about the Egyptian Onions here<br /><br />http://www.egyptianwalkingonion.com/<br /><br />These are not your standard onions, they don't get real big, however everyone that try's them, likes them. I put mine in last fall, and they did fantastic, and it wasn't the slightest bit warm yet, and they started to grow in early spring. <br />You can see how they grow, here. It is true, if you like them, you will never need to grow onions again.<br /><br />http://www.egyptianwalkingonion.com/photogallery.htm<br /><br />Hope this helps, Oh.... and as far as the potato berries and growing them, it is way too much for me to explain, but when I find a few of the saved pages I have, I will post them somewhere that everyone can read. Bless all, Sheila<br />PS I could not survive well without onions or garlic!!!Sheila Gilbertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-72924164990067693032015-06-24T21:09:49.804-04:002015-06-24T21:09:49.804-04:00I certainly hope Sheila Gilbert will tell us later...I certainly hope Sheila Gilbert will tell us later how her Egyptian Walking onions, and her potato berry seeds turn out. These are things I've never heard of and may try myself. I have read online that the potato berry seed will never produce a good crop, and will not be as good as the parent plant. I would like to find out more, such as, when do you harvest the berry seeds? What is a good source for the walking onion? One place said the Yukon potato will produce the most berries.Elizabeth L. Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-50662582106302095202015-06-23T00:16:51.546-04:002015-06-23T00:16:51.546-04:00Wow! I gleaned so much info off these blog comment...Wow! I gleaned so much info off these blog comments! Thanks for starting something good, Herrick!<br />Elizabeth L. Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-216090106661323642015-06-20T00:01:54.205-04:002015-06-20T00:01:54.205-04:00OH, and they're small, the Japanese turnips. Y...OH, and they're small, the Japanese turnips. You pick them when they're around golf ball size. They can be catch-cropped in the little odd spaces around lots of other growing crops and present little competition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-37749415697720514952015-06-19T23:52:33.651-04:002015-06-19T23:52:33.651-04:00Turnips have been transformed into a delectable Su...Turnips have been transformed into a delectable Summer vegetable by the Japanese, who developed different, quick-maturing strains when food was short post-WWII.<br /><br />Johnny's Seeds' 'Hakurei' is the best thing I have discovered recently. Matures in roughly 45 days but holds well in the row in Fall. You can do overlapping crops of it all Summer long. You can even plant them too close; they will shoulder each other around in the row, and also mature at different rates so you can pick one row for quite a while, thinning and making room for the stragglers. Utterly delightful veggie garden item. Unfortunately however it is not a good keeper for the root cellar.<br /><br />I either slice it raw into salads like a radish, or saute thick chunks in a little olive oil and garlic until slightly browned at the edges. When cooked it is nutty and fine, sort of a cross between potato and cabbage in texture and flavor.<br /><br />Sometimes I cook the greens with the flesh, but even though they tend to be young they need to be softened up a bit in advance of the flash-cooking root. I give the greens a little head start by steaming first under cover in a little water and a sprinkle of salt.<br /><br />I tried the 'Shogoin' variety offered from Baker Creek last year but it bolted before bulbing up. That strain either needs to be a Fall crop, or my weather just didn't favor it that time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-70931579091222972032015-06-18T12:50:14.234-04:002015-06-18T12:50:14.234-04:00We called butterpeas butterbeans. They are shaped ...We called butterpeas butterbeans. They are shaped like a Lima bean but larger and yellow. <br />We've grown a large patch of turnips to use for animal feed by broadcasting the seed. The seeds are small and I think every one came up.<br />The cows weren't interested at first so we sold a bunch to a local market.<br />After the grass was gone the cows couldn't wait to get at them. Can also cook the turnips and feed to pigs.<br />We planted in the fall so just left them in the ground. This time I would harvest a lot and store them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-8599349813510782492015-06-17T19:05:16.658-04:002015-06-17T19:05:16.658-04:00I'm surprised Daikon Radish didn't make it...I'm surprised Daikon Radish didn't make it onto the list. As it grows fast, hardy, is milder than a regular radish, you can sprout the seeds to make micro-greens and is somewhat of a super food, medicinally. <br /><br />I planted some in my garden this year and they are growing really well. <br /><br />I personally love roasted turnip. You can also slice them thinly with a mandolin slicer (along with some potato) layer them all with some skirt or chuck steak, also sliced thinly. Season generously with salt and pepper as you're layering. Now you can cook it in a pastry parcel, like a pastie, or just in a baking pan on its own. You can grate cheese on top with a sprinkle of paprika if doing the latter. I'm a pepper freak (as in the peppercorn variety) so I really love to add lots.Chris https://www.blogger.com/profile/13715819899708384147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-69152587160126879512015-06-17T12:50:30.737-04:002015-06-17T12:50:30.737-04:00Well, this blog post, with comments, is clearly th...Well, this blog post, with comments, is clearly the go-to place for information about turnips. <br /><br />Thank you, John D. Wheeler for the tip about Seven Top turnip greens. I Googled them and others say the same about good flavor. I've just ordered seed.Herrick Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-15862285295914964112015-06-17T10:26:13.235-04:002015-06-17T10:26:13.235-04:00Don't know much about turnips, but I love the ...Don't know much about turnips, but I love the variety Seven Top turnip greens. It specifically does not produce a root, and I think it is one of the tastiest winter greens around. And as far as timing goes, I will frequently plant it after my summer crops are done, around the first fall frost if it's not too late.John D. Wheelerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16203607452410210779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-56339739266828177232015-06-17T09:30:24.304-04:002015-06-17T09:30:24.304-04:00Anonymous said...
we grow and freeze turnip greens...Anonymous said...<br />we grow and freeze turnip greens every year. Bring the greens to a boil and let boil 2-3 minutes drain the water off, add fresh water finish cooking this will help with the bitterness.<br /><br />Sue<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-56661589584942632982015-06-17T09:28:53.387-04:002015-06-17T09:28:53.387-04:00we grow and freeze turnip greens every year. Bri...we grow and freeze turnip greens every year. Bring the greens to a boil and let boil 2-3 minutes drain the water off, and fresh water finish cooking this will help with the bitterness.<br /><br />SueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-35436779251623358742015-06-17T07:39:06.680-04:002015-06-17T07:39:06.680-04:00That's very interesting about the potato seeds...That's very interesting about the potato seeds. Thanks Sheila.<br />We rely primarily on the freezer, and that worries me. We do have a dehydrator, but they are very slow, more of a hobby set-up. I haven't managed to get conditions just right in my root cellar efforts.mobiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10582872757769683429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-43469489715570651092015-06-17T04:25:03.763-04:002015-06-17T04:25:03.763-04:00As soon as I opened your post and saw the book, an...As soon as I opened your post and saw the book, and before I even read your post, I went right to Amazon and got the book! Thank you! I got the cheapest one too!<br />My survival crops are a little different. I will be growing Irish potatoes, sweet potatoes, green beans, peas, carrots, onions, garlic, lima beans, kale, cabbage, tomatoes, and many more. Right now I'm learning how to grow what is called TPS. It stands for True Potato Seed. You grow the potato from the actual potato seeds that come from what is called a potato bud, potato ball, or potato berry. It sometimes grows from potato plants when they flower. There are usually about 300 seeds in it, and you can grow potatoes with them. Of course they are not grown the same as seed potato's, but I am learning. I want to have the actual seeds if there is going to be a problem with the food supply. They have been known to grow after being stored for 50 years! Right now you can't get them, because most seed potato's don't grow berries anymore. I get mine from a breeder who only offers them about once a year. One of my other project goals is to, each year, find something new and unusual that will grow in my area, and see how it does in my garden. It has to produce lots of seeds, and be very productive. I have also already started a bed of Egyptian Walking Onions, that will continue to reproduce each year on their own, and should never have to be replaced. That way, I will always have them, even if seeds or sets are not available. Last, I have never grown, or eaten soy beans, however I have some Heirloom soybeans and will grow them for their ability to produce a very large crop in case I need one, and to find out if I even like them. I also have a recipe for them that lets me make "hamburgers" out of them, that a lot of my friends have made, and swear that they taste just like hamburgers, so I'm working on that too. Another point is, survival gardens without the means to store and protect them is a waste. I can, dehydrate, or freeze all that I produce, and have backups for using the "machines" to prepare them if we have no power. One very important issue to me is, that I found that no matter how hungry, you won't eat, what you don't like. A study back when the depression was on, showed that many, because of physical depression, could not, or would not, eat if they did not like the food. I found that to be very interesting. If under pressure that does happen, so I try to make sure that the foods I make, is what everyone already likes. We try new things all the time. So, I guess my very next test is Turnips!!! Bless, Sheila Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02961473328485063074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-55360182850916692712015-06-16T22:43:09.622-04:002015-06-16T22:43:09.622-04:00Granny Gardiner From Alaska: we LOVE turnips and ...Granny Gardiner From Alaska: we LOVE turnips and rutabagas. I put wood ashes around them while they are growing, and on the leaves too, all summer long, all 90 days of it, and get roots without root maggots. The rutabaga greens are much more wonderful to eat.... sort of "meaty" and a nicer texture than prickly turnip greens. They will both dry well after slicing 1/4" thick and blanching for a couple of minutes, and rehydrate very well, and go into our stews and soups! Dry the greens to, for green powder to be added to juices, soups,and as seasoning! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-55795758404716439402015-06-16T18:47:12.471-04:002015-06-16T18:47:12.471-04:00To clarify from Wikipedia; The turnip or white tur...To clarify from Wikipedia; The turnip or white turnip (Brassica rapa subsp. rapa) is a root vegetable commonly grown in temperate climates worldwide for its white, bulbous taproot. The rutabaga, swede (from Swedish turnip), turnip, yellow turnip, or neep (Brassica napobrassica, or Brassica napus var. napobrassica, or Brassica napus subsp. rapifera) is a root vegetable that may have originated as a cross between the cabbage and the turnip. While related, turnips and rutabagas are definitely different plants but the brassica family has been crossed and recrossed over the centuries so it's no wonder the names have been confused.vdealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13980949311520793303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-16480287776935021022015-06-16T17:20:47.975-04:002015-06-16T17:20:47.975-04:00There is a variety of turnip called "Stielmuß...There is a variety of turnip called "Stielmuß" (that's a German double s), grown more for the leaves than the root. But I have found both tops and bottoms to taste a lot better than the summer turnips that I used to grow. We also call "rutabagas and swedes" by the name "turnip". I love them best of all. Better after a frost, unfortunately quite often they get pretty maggoty, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-63554055834888408172015-06-16T10:18:10.504-04:002015-06-16T10:18:10.504-04:00Key info on sawdust IMO:
PARTS OF THE TREE TO USE...Key info on sawdust IMO:<br /><br />PARTS OF THE TREE TO USE<br /><br /> Branches under 7 cm in diameter, without their leaves, are the best choice for shredding. In the North-American species, essential plant nutrients (N, P, K, Ca, Mg) increase when branch diameter decreases. These concentrations reach a minimum in branches over 7 cm in diameter, so branches having less than 7 cm in diameter contain 75% fertilizing nutrients. The bigger the branches the less digestible they become. If sawdust, issued from tree trunks, is mixed with the soil, nitrogen will starve unless the sawdust is composted with farm manure. The trunk of the tree supports the branches which are the real biological center for wood production. The trunk is «dead» and does not allow lignin to be used by enzymes from microflora and fauna to integrate into the soil. For the forest, the «dead» trunk is «garbage», attacked from the outside, and transformed in CO2 with very little benefit to the soil. mobiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10582872757769683429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-19119058409322863492015-06-16T10:02:23.619-04:002015-06-16T10:02:23.619-04:00Snath! THe handle is called a snath. :o)Snath! THe handle is called a snath. :o)mobiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10582872757769683429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-41670612178097293902015-06-16T09:52:08.830-04:002015-06-16T09:52:08.830-04:00The scythe is the best thing I ever bought for com...The scythe is the best thing I ever bought for composting. I started with a bag mower but I'm trying to build as much bed as I have sunny space for (about 2500 sq ft so far) and bagging it was very slow and you leave a lot on the ground (small pieces). The scythe lays it all down, easy to collect and you miss very little.<br /><br />I got it here: http://scythesupply.com/<br />They make the handle(?) to fit you and have a large selection of Austrian blades (which is the way to go). The kit come with a peening jig, which is crucial and a book (The Scythe Book, David Tresemer), also crucial :o) and a whetstone. Everything you need<br /><br />Mine looks like this: http://scythesupply.com/images/products/outfits/Outfitnew1.jpg<br /><br />The scythe is faster than a lawn mower and doesn't actually require much muscle. Speed and technique, not power, is key. Mine is developing (lol) but even with my ragged cuts I get exponentially more mulch, the gathering of which is where the muscle comes in. The same little field that used to produce 4 or 5 bags of clippings will fill my truck bed. Of course I let it go longer first.<br /><br />The edge curls up (if you are sharpening it correctly) so you can slide it right along the ground and basically, scalp it if you wish. So yes, you can cut short grass. Making it even requires technique I have yet to develop. :o(<br /><br />The other benefit is it will cut anything, no matter how tall. Oh yeah. I should have bought the brush blade. It's shorter and stiffer and wouldn't be so susceptible to nicks from woody stems, but my medium does pretty well if I'm careful.<br />I got this one: #1565T TOPS Blade - 26"/65cm $65.00 <br /><br />The Austrian scythe is much different than the old American style. THe Austrian is hammered steel, very thin and under tension. Think of the blade of the old safety razors, with a slight curl. American scythes are thicker, more like machete steel and are brute force blades. Very hard to keep an edge on (I have one of them too) and no curl to the edge so very easy to dull on surface detritus.<br /><br />Happy slicing<br />Fredmobiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10582872757769683429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-64082905366737195502015-06-16T09:09:23.477-04:002015-06-16T09:09:23.477-04:00Ooh! Thanks, Fabric Fanatic for the turnip cooking...Ooh! Thanks, Fabric Fanatic for the turnip cooking hint! When we were kids, the adults warned us that eating raw turnips would give us worms. I don't know where they got that information, but they all said it. So we had to at least "try" those cooked turnips. They looks so good - like potatoes, but the bitter taste was more than our syrup-lovin' kid's tongues could take. This roasted way may have been the answer for us. If only our mothers had known! :-)<br />Mobius Wolf, you scythe? I have a scythe, used it once and sliced my finger first thing. I need to keep it get back to it. Such a better way to get the tall weeds down than that noisy smelly, (and probably even more dangerous) ol' weed eater. It even works on short grass, if I'm understanding it correctly.SharonRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16043548752523750347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-20619013724408104662015-06-16T08:39:41.328-04:002015-06-16T08:39:41.328-04:00I've been composting them with the chicken poo...I've been composting them with the chicken poop and as much field green as I can scythe.<br />It's basically clay up here, below an inch or two so creating soil is crucial.<br /><br />I'm torn between composting them or using them as mulch. I may experiment a little.<br />I have access to the dust from the slicing of 30 chords this year and I hope to make the most of it.<br /><br />Planning on googling it. :o) As a tyro, I'm basically googling every step, but some things slip through the cracks and many results are not definitive, as I'm sure you know.<br /><br />"Nitrogen robbing" as a search term is helpful. Thanks<br /><br />Fredmobiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10582872757769683429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-91275679325162045202015-06-16T07:25:51.828-04:002015-06-16T07:25:51.828-04:00Wow, such excellent responses! Lots of very good p...Wow, such excellent responses! Lots of very good perspective and useful information. <br /><br />You have a good eye for greens, Sharon. <br /><br />I'm ordering turnip seed this week for planting in August, and looking forward to it.<br /><br />Fred in Maine— I think there are differing opinions about wood chips and nitrogen robbing. Garden writer Lee Reich uses wood chips a lot (on top of the soil) and says they are no problem. I think Ramial chips are different than wood chips and sawdust when it comes to the nitrogen thing. But I'm no expert on the subject. I would Google it if I were you. :-)Herrick Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-1409271092382631682015-06-15T21:42:44.505-04:002015-06-15T21:42:44.505-04:00I cook collards with salt water and a ham hock. Ju...I cook collards with salt water and a ham hock. Just started last year and this year's collards are just about ready.vdealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13980949311520793303noreply@blogger.com