tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post3259070197677210201..comments2024-03-23T05:42:07.516-04:00Comments on The Deliberate Agrarian: The Jeffersonian Solution(My N.Y. Times Op-Ed)Herrick Kimballhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-30341616079701087292021-08-24T04:47:32.492-04:002021-08-24T04:47:32.492-04:00Amazing information i really enjoyed reading this ...Amazing information i really enjoyed reading this wonderful article i have also bookmarked this blog for more interesting article<br /><a href="https://gossipmouth.in/" rel="nofollow">gossipmouth</a><br /><a href="http://flippzilla.com/" rel="nofollow">flippzilla</a>About Ushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02706300096844762191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-64739839599926974792016-07-19T00:41:03.632-04:002016-07-19T00:41:03.632-04:00The man had slaves to do whatever he wanted. He sh...The man had slaves to do whatever he wanted. He should know a thing about subservience.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10429891000924145268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-67550556060977890732015-03-23T10:06:20.892-04:002015-03-23T10:06:20.892-04:00Herrick,
Thanks for reading and the reply. I just...Herrick,<br /><br />Thanks for reading and the reply. I just discovered this blog and love it. <br /><br />AndyAndy Webbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-24249925381881973422015-03-23T09:41:21.839-04:002015-03-23T09:41:21.839-04:00Andy,
I appreciate you taking the time to post th...Andy,<br /><br />I appreciate you taking the time to post this information. It's a tangled and wicked web these centralized planners are weaving.Herrick Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-19141627217248128042015-03-23T08:45:51.090-04:002015-03-23T08:45:51.090-04:00Be forewarned. There is a movement afoot advanced ...Be forewarned. There is a movement afoot advanced by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) (as well as the EPA and DOT) to deconstruct the concept of single-family home living and move people off the land and into compact, high-density developments. Some people see an alignment with the United Nations' Agenda 21. HUD and local/regional authorities, acting as central planners and powered by HUD money, are already in action. Here in RI,the plan, masquerading as an economic development plan, is called "RhodeMap RI" (rhodemapri.org) and it is based on HUD's "Livability Principles." HUD can insert itself into local affairs if a municipality takes a HUD grant and thus opens itself up to becoming subject to HUD's rules promoting centralized, "sustainable" living.<br /><br />Tax policy is the statist's most potent social engineering tool. The centerpiece of this scheme and others like it is the "Growth Center" dominated by compact "affordable" rental units that pay lower property taxes, while those who live in single-family homes payer higher property taxes to subsidize them. Thus tax policy provides incentive is to move into dependency in a Growth Center and disincentive to live more expensively on your own plot of land. For HUD and their planner partners, taxing independent land owners off their land is part of their plan.<br /><br />Wherever you live, you may start seeing plans like those broadly described here being put forth by your town planner or regional authorities. Keep your eyes open, ask questions and don't buy a word of what they're selling.Andy Webbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-13478297091476748272015-02-22T12:41:59.531-05:002015-02-22T12:41:59.531-05:00I feel that many Americans are tired of being stru...I feel that many Americans are tired of being strung puppets for our government's hidden agendas (nationally and locally). We have been abused by the system so long, people are seeing it and don't know what to do naturally. I am seeing many Americans wanting to be more independent with their food sources, and that is exactly why so many of us reach out to sources such as yours. I would greatly appreciate it if you could submit your perspectives to my local newspaper, http://www.newsdemocrat.com/<br />I am sure that many members of my community would be inspired of it. Jennifer from Cincinnatinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-73411011560656916222014-08-08T15:03:49.913-04:002014-08-08T15:03:49.913-04:00Historian/writer Michael Hoffman has gone so far a...Historian/writer Michael Hoffman has gone so far as to say that we will never become a republic again, we can't, unless enough of us return to making our living off the land. It is the independent and hard working spirit of the farmer/rancher that gives us the strength and fortitude to be able to have a republic. Good post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-64863433980294058492013-05-22T08:20:20.779-04:002013-05-22T08:20:20.779-04:00Great piece! My family is in the beginning stages...Great piece! My family is in the beginning stages of our journey to a more rural, self sufficient life. I am glad I found your site!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-82654344209555741392012-06-30T09:46:45.424-04:002012-06-30T09:46:45.424-04:00Jefferson thought the agrarian life to be the only...Jefferson thought the agrarian life to be the only one that was worthy for our country. He wanted to send our natural resources to England to their factories, rather than have eyesores on our soil. No factories would despoil our land. The laborers in England would work and send finished products back to America. He did not respect anyone who was not a landowner. And, factories were messy, sooty and not something he wanted in his vision of America.Practical Parsimonyhttp://www.practical-parsimony.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-34982679638533210972011-12-16T06:03:04.241-05:002011-12-16T06:03:04.241-05:00Howard,
You have given me a very good idea. Perha...Howard,<br /><br />You have given me a very good idea. Perhaps I'll do this after the first of the year. Thanks for the offer of a donation but I can submit the article by e-mail. It's free and just about every newspaper in the country is geared for getting letters by e-mail.<br /><br />Thanks again.Herrick Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-58217258331800583992011-12-15T21:56:46.906-05:002011-12-15T21:56:46.906-05:00Why not send it to 100 small town papers? Won'...Why not send it to 100 small town papers? Won't fall on deaf ears that way. I'll pitch in $20 to start a drive to collect postage.<br />Regards, HowardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-68612479882276130562011-10-05T18:00:43.845-04:002011-10-05T18:00:43.845-04:00Regarding Jefferson's debt problems, I have wr...Regarding Jefferson's debt problems, I have written about it here at this link:<br /><br /><a href="http://thedeliberateagrarian.blogspot.com/2008/10/story-of-thomas-jeffersons-personal.html" rel="nofollow">The Story of Thomas Jefferson's Personal Debt</a>Herrick Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-73767504241632981202011-10-05T17:20:51.871-04:002011-10-05T17:20:51.871-04:00Actions speak louder than words. Jefferson's ...Actions speak louder than words. Jefferson's "independence" was reliant upon slavery. Jefferson also lived opulently above his means for most of his life. As he was an ex-President, his creditors let him die in the life style to which he was accustomed but left his family impoverished even after all his assets were sold, including the slaves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-14676293835303352472011-06-12T09:54:10.248-04:002011-06-12T09:54:10.248-04:00When I am flagging, I read the essays of my foremo...When I am flagging, I read the essays of my foremothers and fathers. I draw great strength from their tenacity and objectivity. After twenty plus years of military service, my family is "retiring" to a life that we will surely find harder than being shot at (et al)---but we welcome it. I have added your salient essay to my regular reading list and have forwarded and recopied it ENDLESSLY in emails and in blog comment threads. Thank you for your Godly practical wisdom.seejanemomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-57811069285226688602011-05-03T21:36:27.034-04:002011-05-03T21:36:27.034-04:00I just came upon your blog and I agree with your l...I just came upon your blog and I agree with your lifestyle and am beginning a similar journey with my family. We're starting our homestead near Thomas Jefferson's hometown of Charlottesville, VA. Providing for yourself gives an unparalleled feeling of satisfaction and security. I see more and more people moving this direction and I think it's for the better. We live in a world much different than our forefathers intended- and need to get back to self-sustainability in order to give the next generations a chance.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13225373759609317285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-30680675787034593242010-04-11T13:44:06.626-04:002010-04-11T13:44:06.626-04:00Fantastic piece! We have just started turning our...Fantastic piece! We have just started turning our almost 1 acre into our own little homestead. There are so many reasons to do this and so many different segments of the population doing this now. The movement is truly growing faster than any of us really know. There are so many different reasons to do this. You can come at it from the environmental standpoint. You can start doing it because you are tired of feeding your family vitamin deficient genetically modified food that is covered in poison and fecal matter. You can come at this from the viewpoint of the animals and workers involved in the food industry. Thier lives are miserable so that we can have cheap food.Do it so that you and your family will survive if something disrupts the fragile global food supply. As a mother it's my job to make sure that my family is fed and I don't want to stand in a bread line. And now there is this viewpoint. Do it to save your country. Do it to regain your freedoms. Do it because you believe in independence and self sufficiency. Do it because you are a true patriot. Make sure you get this published somewhere. Don't give up. This is a very inspiring piece and more people need to read it. <br /><br /> A. BrownAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-29420179032063479452009-11-30T18:36:03.911-05:002009-11-30T18:36:03.911-05:00I've found the city to be more of a Godly plac...I've found the city to be more of a Godly place, oddly enough.<br /><br />I lived in rural areas with a mix of livelihoods rich in people who lived on direct government support, people who worked through the agricultural subsidy system to make their living, and people who tapped the stream of subsidized agricultural chemicals to manufacture methamphetamine in a bid for some measure of independence.<br /><br />There were factory workers, shopkeepers, etc. out in the country, and of course the almost all of the problems I grew up around show up in urban environments too, but the overall character of the city I live in is much healthier than the tiny towns I grew up in. People rebuke their neighbors openly, rather than letting problems fester, for one. In general, I see more willingness to change course (literally, to repent) around me here than when I visit my home town.<br /><br />I absolutely agree with you on the systemic benefits of producing from the land. I think we can learn a lot from the systems that made so many large cities nearly or completely food-independent in the centuries prior to industrialization, and return both urban and rural life to ways that make sense.<br /><br />And I think that cities contain at least enough good people to argue against fire and brimstone.Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16755460714090772432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-27083004500051598192009-11-30T09:58:25.534-05:002009-11-30T09:58:25.534-05:00I often am a little self-conscious of my frugality...I often am a little self-conscious of my frugality, thrift, and do-it-yourself drive - as they don't seem to be terribly highly valued by most. But I have never equated it to freedom. It's a true point, and thanks for writing about it. I have a lot more freedom and independence than most, and the older I get, the more I value it.Kevin Kossowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00162563717624538222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13729569.post-38205946703707761442009-11-30T03:04:38.920-05:002009-11-30T03:04:38.920-05:00I agree whole-heartedly. I am a fan of a fiction a...I agree whole-heartedly. I am a fan of a fiction and non-fictionwriter by the name of Ayn Rand. Her philosophy, people say, is opposite of agrarianism and all that it stands for. However, I see that she would agree with the main tenants of agrarianism, that man can and should be reliant only on himself, and not be subservient to any other man unless he chooses to be. I've learned more and more about Jefferson as time goes by, and he and Ayn would have agreed that everyone should just stay out of everyone else's business unless invited in, and have some dignity.<br /><br />You should try submitting your op-ed piece to another newspaper. Maybe one with more Republican/Libertarian leanings? They tend to be more supportive of philosophies like agrarianism. Goodluck, and I enjoyed your piece.Hank Coranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01012693611319597531noreply@blogger.com